Heroes 5/21/07 SEASON FINALE

[ShannonA]

Here's a thread to talk about the first season finale of Heroes.

[lazarus]

All I can say about that is "holy frak, that's perhaps one of the best seasons of tv show written EVER"

That finale was gorgeous, and I'm disappointed to say I didn't actually think of their solution before I saw it :o

Laz

[Something Else]

It was a bit disappointing that there was a lack of super-fast action but it was still very fun... I hope Sylar survives. Yes, I am one of the dreaded fanboys.

And I agree that it was definitely one of the best seasons ever. It now beats Veronica Mars as my favorite first season ever.

[wiseblood]

It was a bit disappointing that there was a lack of super-fast action but it was still very fun... I hope Sylar survives.


I think it's pretty obvious that he did. Otherwise why show the blood trail leading to the manhole.

I've been pretty much assuming that the lack of over the top action this season has been for budgetary reasons. Hopefully they'll have more money next season.

[Quasar]

Nice. I suppose its too much to ask for Peter (my fave character after Hiro) to make a return.

I'm disappointed to see Sylar still alive...but hey it is a live action comic book.

[GM Victory]

I think both Nathan and Peter are alive.

At the speed that Nathan appears to fly, he could have let Peter go once they reached the upper atmosphere. Momentum would keep Peter shooting skyward while Nathan takes off to get clear.

After the explosion, Nathan flies back to catch the unconscious Peter and they go into hiding to begin the fight against their Evil Mother and the rest of the Conspiracy of Heroes.

At least, that's what MY version of next season contains. :)

[Fritzef]

I think we can take it for granted that Peter will be back, since it's been established in the 5 years in the future episode that he can survive blowing up in this way.

I run hot and cold on the series. I wasn't disappointed in the episode, but it didn't thrill me, either. The big fight scene didn't do much for me--it seemed like a strained attempt to get everyone involved. And ultimately, none of it seemed to matter. That is, Sylar wasn't killed (dammit!). He was never going to blow himself up anyway, because unlike Peter he couldn't survive it.

A question for those who follow the show more closely than I do--why did Peter need Nathan to fly him away? He's absorbed Nathan's power already. Granted, he seems to have some difficulty in accessing the power, but generally he seems to be able to pull any power he needs out of his hat when he really needs to--he can even do it while dead. So why didn't he just fly himself away?

On the plus side, I was glad that Noah Bennett survived--he's rapidly becoming my favorite character.

[wiseblood]

Here's some possible reasons I've come up with for why he couldn't fly himself.

1) Can't use two active powers simultaneously (not sure if this has been contradicted and I'm considering healing to be a passive power).

2) He was using all of his concentration and willpower to hold off the blast as long as he could.

3) He was just flat out freaking out and forgot he could fly.

[The Fiendish Dr. Samsara]

I think we can take it for granted that Peter will be back, since it's been established in the 5 years in the future episode that he can survive blowing up in this way.

I run hot and cold on the series. I wasn't disappointed in the episode, but it didn't thrill me, either. The big fight scene didn't do much for me--it seemed like a strained attempt to get everyone involved. And ultimately, none of it seemed to matter. That is, Sylar wasn't killed (dammit!). He was never going to blow himself up anyway, because unlike Peter he couldn't survive it.

A question for those who follow the show more closely than I do--why did Peter need Nathan to fly him away? He's absorbed Nathan's power already. Granted, he seems to have some difficulty in accessing the power, but generally he seems to be able to pull any power he needs out of his hat when he really needs to--he can even do it while dead. So why didn't he just fly himself away?

On the plus side, I was glad that Noah Bennett survived--he's rapidly becoming my favorite character.


I had a post ready until I saw this.

I with you on all points. Except to point out that Peter never seems to fly on his own IIRC. Which seems weird to me.

[Something Else]

I had a post ready until I saw this.

I with you on all points. Except to point out that Peter never seems to fly on his own IIRC. Which seems weird to me.
Because he can teleport?

[Spacklemonkey]

Actually, he did fly by himself when Bennett & the Haitian attacked him & Claude. Tackled Claude off the side of the building and carried him off if I'm not mistaken.

[ShannonA]

Finally got to see the last two eps!

I also wasn't thrilled by the finale, but the season was so good, with everything leading to this last episode, that I think it would be just about impossible to live up to expectations. It was a fine and fair end to the season.

Sylar living was definitely disappointing, because on the face of it, it doesn't solve the problem. Unless the problem was *always* Peter blowing up, in which case it probably does. Since he's no longer blowing up in the future, we can presume that it was a one-time thing as he came to grips with Ted's powers.

I think there's pretty much no doubt that Peter lived, Nathan being the bigger question.

(And as for why the sacrifice was necessary, I'd have to agree that Peter was unable to use his powers for whatever reason, most likely because he was about to go nuclear.)

I'm now entirely curious about where season two is going to go. Hiro is clearly back with his Samurai ... ancestor one would presume. Tie that with the name "Generations" and there's the hint that we're going to learn a lot about the heroes' ancestors. It would be incredibly brave to see some chunk of the season with none of our old character except Hiro, interacting with a new cast, but I doubt they'll go that way.

It'll be cool if they did though. The Samuari bit doesn't excite me, but the Heroes of the Golden Age would.

With the talk of introducing new heroes and moving older heroes off stage, the question also arises, whose story is over.

I could see Claire and Bennett exiting the show (though I'd be unhappy without Bennet) because of their talk of going back to their family.

D.L. and Parkman are both in critical condition, but I don't believe we'll lose either of them.

I'd guess Nathan will be gone next season, whether that's because he's dead--or suspected dead, only to show up in the season two finale. I'd guess the latter thanks to the "no body" rule from comics.

And we've also been introduced to either the season two villain or the series long villain--the man that can see Molly. Maybe our writers will do a Buffy and have the new villain casually kill Sylar in chapter one of volume two.

[lazarus]

And we've also been introduced to either the season two villain or the series long villain--the man that can see Molly. Maybe our writers will do a Buffy and have the new villain casually kill Sylar in chapter one of volume two.

That was gorgeous when it was done in Buffy, and it would be absolutely gorgeous again if it happens in Heroes :D

Laz

[wiseblood]

I've started to think that since this whole Heroes thing seems to span back as far as it does that it would be cool that instead of turning into Aberrant the series it would turn into Scion the series.

Also I've noticed that in threads over on RPGnet that some people were speculating that the eclipse that Hiro sees at the end of the episode was the starting point of the Heroes phenomenon. I think it would be much cooler if it was just another point in a much larger cycle and that the Heroes throughout time are tied into the mythologies of the ancient world.

[ShannonA]

Also I've noticed that in threads over on RPGnet that some people were speculating that the eclipse that Hiro sees at the end of the episode was the starting point of the Heroes phenomenon. I think it would be much cooler if it was just another point in a much larger cycle and that the Heroes throughout time are tied into the mythologies of the ancient world.

I was struck by the eclipse too.

What it means is hard to say, as we've never been given any indication that it's anything more than symbolic in the modern day. Afterall, there were powers before it.

[wiseblood]

I was struck by the eclipse too.

What it means is hard to say, as we've never been given any indication that it's anything more than symbolic in the modern day. Afterall, there were powers before it.

It's possible that it heralds a crisis that requires a convergence of Heroes.